From cec423a7575edfdbfdb60a169aca792510c4f185 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: jbowdre Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 14:45:26 +0000 Subject: [PATCH] convert Markdown post to Gempost --- ...on-of-various-search-engines-i-ve-used.gmi | 45 +++++++++++++++++++ ...n-of-various-search-engines-i-ve-used.yaml | 4 ++ ...ion-of-various-search-engines-i-ve-used.md | 16 +++---- 3 files changed, 57 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) create mode 100644 gemlog/a-comprehensive-evaluation-of-various-search-engines-i-ve-used.gmi create mode 100644 gemlog/a-comprehensive-evaluation-of-various-search-engines-i-ve-used.yaml rename markdown/{incoming => }/a-comprehensive-evaluation-of-various-search-engines-i-ve-used.md (99%) diff --git a/gemlog/a-comprehensive-evaluation-of-various-search-engines-i-ve-used.gmi b/gemlog/a-comprehensive-evaluation-of-various-search-engines-i-ve-used.gmi new file mode 100644 index 0000000..b1d9a39 --- /dev/null +++ b/gemlog/a-comprehensive-evaluation-of-various-search-engines-i-ve-used.gmi @@ -0,0 +1,45 @@ +Call me old fashioned, but when I want to find out about something my first instinct is *not* to chat with a computer. I'm not interested in a conversational back-and-forth or a probably-at-least-partially-incorrect summary, I just want to find the authoritative resources that can tell me about a thing. So I use a search engine, and I've used a lot of different search engines over the past ~5 years or so. + +Given that the world has just been recently reminded that so many of those "alternative" search engines are literally just Bing[1], I thought it might be time to throw together a complete list of the search engines which are out there. *(As with everything I write, this is a comprehensive and factual listing, and any omissions are deliberate and not because I'm lazy or not actually thorough in my evaluations.)* + +=> https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-outage-affects-bing-copilot-duckduckgo-and-chatgpt-internet-search/ 1: "alternative" search engines are literally just Bing + +- [**Google**](https://google.com). Used to be the default way to find stuff, then they started making the results deliberately worse[1], then they started shoving AI into every orifice. Hard pass. + +=> https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/ 1: deliberately worse + +- [**Bing**](https://bing.com). Used to be garbage, then started to get a little better (as Google results were getting a little worse), then they started shoving AI into every orifice. Hard pass. + +- [**DuckDuckGo**](https://duckduckgo.com). It's Bing in a trenchcoat, but private. Meh. + +- [**Ecosia**](https://www.ecosia.org/). It's Bing in a trenchcoat, but plants trees? Meh. + +- [**Startpage**](https://www.startpage.com/). Bingle + Google (Bingle), but private. Meh. + +- [**Brave**](https://search.brave.com/). Has its own crawler/index, and supplements the results with queries from Bingle - oh and the company's business model is built on crypto[1] and related scammy behavior[2], and the CEO is kind of a jerk[3]. Hard pass. + +=> https://fossforce.com/2023/01/brave-a-great-browser-with-a-questionable-business-model/ 1: built on crypto +=> https://www.pcmag.com/news/brave-browser-caught-redirecting-users-through-affiliate-links 2: related scammy behavior +=> https://web.archive.org/web/20240504031305/https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/22/business/brave-brendan-eich-covid-19.html 3: CEO is kind of a jerk + +- [**Kagi**](https://kagi.com). Own index, plus results from Bingle. Subscription-based business model, and honestly great results... but I've stopped using Kagi over concerns about the CEO's character and the company's lack of focus[1]. Meh. + +=> https://d-shoot.net/kagi.html 1: concerns about the CEO's character and the company's lack of focus + +- [**You.com**](https://you.com). Basically Bing + AI wrapped with a dumb chat interface. Pass. + +- [**Perplexity**](https://www.perplexity.ai/). Basically Bing + AI wrapped with a slightly better chat interface, and nice inline references for the summaries. This is my go-to for when I want to ask questions for a topic, but isn't really useful for finding authoritative sources (documentation) directly. + +- [**Stract**](https://stract.com/). The currently-most-interesting search project in the world. It's fully independent and open source[1], and offers a lot of control over how it works... but the results are kind of underwhelming. I want this to succeed, but I can't use it for regular search tasks. + +=> https://github.com/StractOrg/stract 1: open source + +- [**SearXNG**](https://docs.searxng.org/). A metasearch engine which pulls from every other search engine, and gives you knobs to toggle each source to fine-tune the results. It doesn't have its own index or crawler, but offers good-enough results without having to rely on any one (or two) provider(s). Also, I'm a sucker for self-hosting[1]. **This is my current default, at least until Stract gets better**. + +=> https://scribbles.jbowdre.lol/post/self-hosting-a-search-engine-iyjdlk6y 1: self-hosting + +If you think my evaluation wasn't comprehensive, thorough, or objective enough, you might be happier with this more excellent comparison of search engines with their own indexes[1]. + +=> https://seirdy.one/posts/2021/03/10/search-engines-with-own-indexes/ 1: more excellent comparison of search engines with their own indexes + +=> https://scribbles.jbowdre.lol/post/a-comprehensive-evaluation-of-various-search-engines-i-ve-used 📡 Originally posted on Scribbles diff --git a/gemlog/a-comprehensive-evaluation-of-various-search-engines-i-ve-used.yaml b/gemlog/a-comprehensive-evaluation-of-various-search-engines-i-ve-used.yaml new file mode 100644 index 0000000..ab9402d --- /dev/null +++ b/gemlog/a-comprehensive-evaluation-of-various-search-engines-i-ve-used.yaml @@ -0,0 +1,4 @@ +id: "urn:uuid:be36880e-b008-49fa-8ee2-4ca368e876c6" +title: "A Comprehensive Evaluation of Various Search Engines I've Used" +published: "2024-05-23T14:42:41.000000Z" +updated: "2024-05-23T14:42:41.000000Z" diff --git a/markdown/incoming/a-comprehensive-evaluation-of-various-search-engines-i-ve-used.md b/markdown/a-comprehensive-evaluation-of-various-search-engines-i-ve-used.md similarity index 99% rename from markdown/incoming/a-comprehensive-evaluation-of-various-search-engines-i-ve-used.md rename to markdown/a-comprehensive-evaluation-of-various-search-engines-i-ve-used.md index 039e605..52bbac8 100644 --- a/markdown/incoming/a-comprehensive-evaluation-of-various-search-engines-i-ve-used.md +++ b/markdown/a-comprehensive-evaluation-of-various-search-engines-i-ve-used.md @@ -1,9 +1,9 @@ ---- -title: "A Comprehensive Evaluation of Various Search Engines I've Used" -published: "2024-05-23T14:42:41.000000Z" -updated: "2024-05-23T14:42:41.000000Z" ---- - +--- +title: "A Comprehensive Evaluation of Various Search Engines I've Used" +published: "2024-05-23T14:42:41.000000Z" +updated: "2024-05-23T14:42:41.000000Z" +--- + Call me old fashioned, but when I want to find out about something my first instinct is *not* to chat with a computer. I'm not interested in a conversational back-and-forth or a probably-at-least-partially-incorrect summary, I just want to find the authoritative resources that can tell me about a thing. So I use a search engine, and I've used a lot of different search engines over the past ~5 years or so. Given that the world has just been recently reminded that so many of those ["alternative" search engines are literally just Bing](https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-outage-affects-bing-copilot-duckduckgo-and-chatgpt-internet-search/), I thought it might be time to throw together a complete list of the search engines which are out there. *(As with everything I write, this is a comprehensive and factual listing, and any omissions are deliberate and not because I'm lazy or not actually thorough in my evaluations.)* @@ -20,6 +20,6 @@ Given that the world has just been recently reminded that so many of those ["alt - [**Stract**](https://stract.com/). The currently-most-interesting search project in the world. It's fully independent and [open source](https://github.com/StractOrg/stract), and offers a lot of control over how it works... but the results are kind of underwhelming. I want this to succeed, but I can't use it for regular search tasks. - [**SearXNG**](https://docs.searxng.org/). A metasearch engine which pulls from every other search engine, and gives you knobs to toggle each source to fine-tune the results. It doesn't have its own index or crawler, but offers good-enough results without having to rely on any one (or two) provider(s). Also, I'm a sucker for [self-hosting](https://scribbles.jbowdre.lol/post/self-hosting-a-search-engine-iyjdlk6y). **This is my current default, at least until Stract gets better**. -If you think my evaluation wasn't comprehensive, thorough, or objective enough, you might be happier with this [more excellent comparison of search engines with their own indexes](https://seirdy.one/posts/2021/03/10/search-engines-with-own-indexes/). - +If you think my evaluation wasn't comprehensive, thorough, or objective enough, you might be happier with this [more excellent comparison of search engines with their own indexes](https://seirdy.one/posts/2021/03/10/search-engines-with-own-indexes/). + => https://scribbles.jbowdre.lol/post/a-comprehensive-evaluation-of-various-search-engines-i-ve-used 📡 Originally posted on Scribbles \ No newline at end of file